In this week's episode, Lalita and Kelly speak with Dr. Sara Pastoor, a DPC family physician at People-Centered Health and the Head of Primary Care Advancement at Elation Health. Sara shares her origin story of her instrumental role in shifting the military from AHLTA (the armed services EHR) to safer interfaces, all the way to Elation Health which emphasizes the importance of co-development between family physicians and design/engineering teams. She also shares some incredible leadership advice including: - learning how to flex the muscle of "no" - having strong clinical skills to have an influential seat at the table - and how to engage with stakeholders who may not be on the same page as family medicine