In this week's episode, Kelly and Lalita speak with Dr. Marisha Burden, the division head of Hospital Medicine and a professor of medicine at the University of Colorado School of Medicine and the co-creator of the mobile platform, Gritty Work. She's an avid researcher, publisher, and thought leader on evidence-based work design and building thriving teams. With a remarkable broad research base and the curiosity to creatively address research questions on optimal teams, workplace improvements for healthcare workers, and most recently, administrative harm, Dr. Burden's mixed-methods research has the potential to impact health care design in more meaningful and financially sustainable ways. An impressive conversation, this is definitely one to check out! Show Notes: 1. Burden M, Astik G, Auerbach A, et al. Identifying and Measuring Administrative Harms Experienced by Hospitalists and Administrative Leaders. JAMA Intern Med. 2024;184(9):1014–1023. DOI:10.1001/jamainternmed.2024.1890 2. Burden M, Dyrbye L. Evidence-Based Work Design — Bridging the Divide. NEJM. 2025;392:1044-1046. DOI: 10.1056/NEJMp2412389